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Post Icon Posted: Dec 13th, 2015 at 05:01 pm

CRITICISM IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED; I NEED TO IMPROVE, ALWAYS


I'm terrible at proportions, but I spend a long time on every picture anyway, so please let me know if something looks goofhey.



1.) First Blood
Just want to post something. I promise less erase marks and more content in the future. This took me much too long to draw.


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Post Icon Posted: Jan 10th, 2016 at 11:35 am

Although not an official art entry, these are my favorite renditions of Xin; this is how he should look for the most part. (until I can figure out how to focus on how I want him to specifically look)

Ignore the weapon on his back.



I'm having trouble with consistency and proportions, so I'm continuing to practice.

These were drawn from the head, down. I normally don't sketch the whole body's proportions; I just start with the head and draw everything downward to fit, changing something whenever it looks off.

I'm going to draw in a way that I'm sketching the whole body instead, and then fine-lining. I'll be faster and more accurate.

I know the lines are pretty light, but I didn't want to change them. In the future my lines'll be darker, too.

Here's a bonus pic. I haven't drawn toooo much as I've wanted toooo, because I divide my attention between two things at once, but I've put together Xin's new identity and background (and it's rather extensive).
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This video REALLY helped with showing me why muscles appear and overlap in the upper body: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByIMGhV3ITU

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Post Icon Posted: Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:25 am

The photos doesnt appear for me mate
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Jan 13th, 2016 at 11:25 am, DJGrandPa wrote:
The photos doesnt appear for me mate


Balls, man. Maybe someone flagged them on photobucket, and they deleted them on me?

I had to upload 'em again.

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HERE'S ANOTHER SKETCH

I doubt I'll be uploading any more sketches of persons, unless I spend a bunch of time to get the proportions perfect, finalize the sketch, and make the drawing all sexy lookin'.



This is the first time I've ever attempted to draw a female, and I have yet to look at how a female body is supposed to be, so this is my attempt from instinct.

I'm going to draw up my roster; expect my brawl contributions to be the type of quality above. I'm not going to spend time fixing flaws, like the legs, since I expect to become better over time, anyway.
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Post Icon Posted: Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:32 pm

This reminds me so much of early SPB me. I still can't draw females too well. The best advice I can give you is to look at real life pictures (or just real life lol), and draw it like that, study the atonamy. Especially the shoulders are a lot smaller on females than you depicted, and her boobs are really weird, amongst other things.

The male was a lot better drawn, but imho lacks personality (though I'm thinking that was sort of the point.) That's what I can tell ya Smiley
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Jan 13th, 2016 at 12:32 pm, DJGrandPa wrote:
This reminds me so much of early SPB me. I still can't draw females too well. The best advice I can give you is to look at real life pictures (or just real life lol), and draw it like that, study the atonamy. Especially the shoulders are a lot smaller on females than you depicted, and her boobs are really weird, amongst other things.

The male was a lot better drawn, but imho lacks personality (though I'm thinking that was sort of the point.) That's what I can tell ya Smiley


Thank you for the feedback! Smiley

I thought she looked decent; so yeah, I definitely need practice after reading your advice and taking a second look :b
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Post Icon Posted: Jan 25th, 2016 at 07:07 pm

SHIEEET

Have a teaser.


This was drawn almost a week ago.

I would have been done by now if I hadn't been goofing off.

I'm just having trouble drawing a one-page sized Xin...

He also looks shorter than he should be, so it's going to be a bunch more sketches until I feel I can get my roster right.
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Post Icon Posted: Jan 25th, 2016 at 10:58 pm

what is it with your characters having no crotch whatsoever. also, shoulders are way tooooooooo fucking broad.

TL:DR-ur proportions are proper FUCKED MATEY. look at some nudie pics.

also, using some reference is fine, don't just go on instinct.

ALSO, Quit treating ur sketchbook like such a pristine snowflake and like put some nudie pics in it for reference.

Grent: There was a smiley here where there shouldn't have been one and it was bothering me, so I disabled smileys for this post

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Post Icon Posted: Jan 26th, 2016 at 06:48 am

I fucking. ....Agh
First up, I apologize. It's going to be hard remaining civil here because looking at this 'art' thread makes me tired and angry.

Not because you're bad. Although you are;
But because I see a guy who's walking down the exact same path that neutered my potential and stunted my progress as an artist not just for months, but for well over five years. We're talking half a fucking decade here and that's the road you're traveling down. So buck the fuck up, strap in and listen. You are me! You are on the path to what I wish I NEVER fucking became and I am going to TRY to save your soul here. I am begging you please listen to me. These are my regrets as an artist crystalized.

The first thing that leaps to mind is this is not art. There is no art here. All I see is multiple drawings of the same literally dickless moron from the same angles with the same bjorked anatomy.

This is not art.
This is not an anything.
Do you realize how creatively dead this is?

Do you realize this is creative stagnation? I spent years drawing gay anime shit. Not even gay anime shit, I *wish* I'd spent years drawing gay anime shit. No, I spent years drawing the same one guy, much like you.
Do you know what I had to show for myself at the end of this path?
I had become very very good at drawing one shitty anime character. Not all anime characters, just the one. just some dude.
Just some dickless asshole.




Art is engaging. Art is inspiring. Art makes us wonder and art makes us believe. Art challenges us. This is some dickless asshole dead on on the page where he was supposed to come to life. For fucks sake, draw something else.

Draw the trees, draw the moon. Draw water, draw nature. Draw what frightens you. Draw what inspires you. Draw what you'd like to become. Draw who you don't ever want to become. Engage with the world around you for it is vast and deep.
It goes beyond one dickless guy in 3/4 view, What is he wearing? What are the current fashion trends? Who made that weapon (I can't even tell what that is supposed to be) he's using? For what purpose?

Do you see how literally unlimited the page infront of you is?
Do you realize how powerful of an artist you will be if you diversify?
NEVER EVER LIMIT YOURSELF THE WAY YOU ARE DOING. You must become versatile and powerful, Able to draw freely anything and everything you can imagine.
Drawing the same dickless maggot over and over again isn't going to help you do that. ANYTHING BUT THAT WILL.


Fuck anatomy. Fuck it with a rusty shovel. That's halfway up the mountain and you havent even begun to climb it yet. That isn't for you.

Focus on the basic shapes. Cube. Pyramid. Cylinder. Circle.
If you can learn how to think about these shapes in 3D you can draw literally just about anything from them. When you understand how these shapes work you can bluff just about anything from the knowledge of them.
If you are looking for teachers;
Jack Hamm, Bridgman and Vilppu, In that order.




If all you care about is drawing Xin in shitty poses then drown in this worthless art and die. I don't give a damn.

If you care about becoming more than you are, the next time I see you post it had better for your sake be something else. ANYTHING fucking else.

I'm so tired and jaded I can't even remember why I loved to draw so much in the first place. At the end of this path, only death remains.




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Post Icon Posted: Jan 26th, 2016 at 08:02 am

Hey there buddy ol' pal ol' chum,
You've got one major problem with your approach to drawing- you're complicating it without knowing foundations. You don't draw a potato by starting with the dirt and indents on it, you draw a wonky circle. Don't focus on muscles before you know the proportions and general shape of the body.

Start your sketches with rough shapes, circle for the head, box-ish shape for the torso, et cetera, get the overall silhouette looking convincing. Once you've done that, do it again from a different angle, do a different pose, consider a line of action and consider how your character will be moving or how he'll be acting in order to look cool. Don't complicate things yet- you just want shapes represent your pose and breathe some life into it. Chiseled abs and battle scars come into play once you've got something interesting to work off.

Your current sketches are, basically, boring. Of course, drawing personality comes with practice, but it should be something you're conscious of as you're drawing. Even if Mr.Xin is just standing around he'll still have some sort of energy to him- something as minor as leaning slightly more weight on one heel or having a hand on his hip.

I'd recommend reading up on the line of motion and looking in to 30 second figure drawing, look at how other people get heaps of interest in super simple sketches- not only will it help to give Mr.Xin a crowd-pleasing personality, it'll help you with your understanding of gesture and basic anatomy/proportions. Get some sturdy foundations and build from there.

Make sure to push what you do with your poses, props and environment. Get whacky! If you want a leg to wrap around a torso, try it, it'll probably look fucking awful but hey, now you know what to avoid. If it doesn't, then that's a victory. Try to consider what environment your character is in, even that's as simple as roughing in some squares as placeholders. Experiment with drawing from different viewing angles.

Drawing should be something you love, but drawing without improvement is one of the most demoralising things you can endure- and thats improvement of technique or of the content you dream up- don't let yourself stagnate and get caught in the same idea, draw lots of things all the time and keep at it.

But remember- shapes and gesture first!
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Post Icon Posted: Jan 26th, 2016 at 09:27 am

THANK YOU EVERYBODY

I FEEL BETTER ABOUT DRAWING

I WILL BECOME DECENTLY WELL AT DRAWING ONE DAY :D



TL;DR I'M A STALAGMITE THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING







Jan 25th, 2016 at 10:58 pm, Taylor wrote:
TL:DR-ur proportions are proper FUCKED MATEY. look at some nudie pics.


I never use reference… so that probably explains a lot. I'm going to start using reference. I watched a video on drawing and in it explained how not to use reference as copy material, but instead drawing and just paying attention to the proportions, and body parts, and angles of the reference.

I just don't want erase marks for my roster, or anything I took a while on; every other page has a bunch of 3/4 view drawings splotched and sketched everywhere.









Jan 26th, 2016 at 06:48 am, PM wrote:
I fucking. ....Agh
First up, I apologize. It's going to be hard remaining civil here because looking at this 'art' thread makes me tired and angry.


I know PM. This is creatively dead… I just want to be able to draw a character over-and-over-and-over so I can brawl without my character, or anybody else's, looking like a twat from page to page. If I wanted to actually post some "art", I would've numbered my art and it would be a whole page with bent legs and perspective and tilted body parts, but I'm no where near comfortable enough to be doing that, so you're completely correct. I've fucked myself by trying to make one perspective of one character the way I want it.

I've drawn some side views, I've drawn some front views, and I can draw, or paint, anything sitting in front of me. I only feel like I'm missing something when it comes to faces and the 3/4 view. I'm obviously missing proportions, I don't even think I know how to draw a proper stomach and love-handles, and I'm sure my perspectives need a lot of help. Yet I refuse to look at anybody else's art, or even a picture, for a reference because pulling from imagination is hard if it's anything creative.

I REALLY REALLY want to become good at drawing my character because I am hoping that through the process I will become good at drawing characters in general. I don't even look at myself for a reference… that's how jaded I am when it comes to pulling anything from a reference; it feels like a challenge when I'm trying to draw from imagination. That's why my art is retarded… And that's why my art is never going to get better unless I experiment and actually try to learn the shapes...

...and I totally thought I was onto something, but it's clear that I'm going to stay terrible unless I buck the fuck up and look into some teachings and references, and switch it the fuck up every time my pencil hits the paper. It's going to be so ugly at first. I need to break out of this way that has made me feel like I'd be good enough to start brawling if I just could draw a proper 3/4 view, and eventually learn the proportions.

You're completely right; I could not say it enough. I need to stop focusing on this bland way of trying to speed-boost myself to feel good enough to start brawling, and just draw a bunch of different things! I actually am a deep individual, but my art says the exact opposite. I need to fucking draw some different amounts art, and experiment, and eventually I'll be decent enough to art.

Thank you…

I'll definitely look into those teachers you mentioned.









Jan 26th, 2016 at 08:02 am, Captain Reindeer wrote:
You've got one major problem with your approach to drawing- you're complicating it without knowing foundations. You don't draw a potato by starting with the dirt and indents on it, you draw a wonky circle. Don't focus on muscles before you know the proportions and general shape of the body.


I got you. Shape it up, switch it up, draw different stuff.

I have no idea how to see the shapes that fit into everything; I'm so ass backwards at this point.

I'll try to breathe life into everything from now on. I'll actually lift his chin, slouch his shoulders, and tilt his head and hips. I'll actually spend the time to learn the shapes that ARE the human body, so I can make him look the way he's supposed to. I'll actually try backgrounds and what-not.

It's going to be a while before I can feel comfortable enough brawling. I just need to suck it up and constantly try different things until I see improvement.

I might as well be a fossil or a stalagmite with how stagnant I'm being. This explains why I feel like I'm missing something, and low-and-behold it's not the 3/4 view; it's the need to breathe life and create different scenarios...

I just want to brawl so badly...
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>I just want to brawl so badly...

Then brawl. Jump off the cliff and grow wings on the way down.
There's never been a minimum required skill level to post here dude. That's just ego.

Nitros art looks like literal pig shit and always has.

Again, I regret coming off so harsh. But I hope you realize I only spoke that way because I care about you. our 2012 tourney match was some of the most fun Ive had on this dump.

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Post Icon Posted: Jan 26th, 2016 at 10:09 am

PM is right in that regard, i even agree with his hardline approach. You wanna brawl, quit saying it and start doing it, i mean, he's right about Nitro, and he's one of the most active contributors on this hellscape.

probably my biggest irk that i have with you (aside from me absolutely loathing your musical tastes) is that you talk the talk but you aint walking the walk.

You're not gonna know what the deep end is like if you don't get your feet wet. Simple as that. Yeah, it'll look like shit and you'll probably hate it, but hey learn as you go. make mistakes and learn from them.

It's basically the same as riding a bike.Don't talk to your friends about bike riding if you can't ride a bike but constantly remind them that you want to. just ride the fucking bike and if you fall get up and try again.

TL; DR- PM is right, quit talking and start walking.
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Post Icon Posted: Jan 26th, 2016 at 10:15 am

time 2 go from the kidy pool to the big kids pool
if u drown its ur own fault
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Jan 26th, 2016 at 10:15 am, Luzuese wrote:
time 2 go from the kidy pool to the big kids pool
if u drown its ur own fault

As a Lifeguard I can approve of this.
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